print, engraving
narrative-art
baroque
old engraving style
figuration
history-painting
engraving
Dimensions: height 438 mm, width 288 mm
Copyright: Rijks Museum: Open Domain
Editor: We’re looking at “Heilige Familie met Johannes de Doper,” or “Holy Family with John the Baptist,” a 1632 engraving. There's something really formal and composed about this, but also tender. What do you see in this piece, from a curatorial perspective? Curator: Beyond the obvious religious symbolism, I see this print as a commentary on power, gender, and social hierarchy, typical for its time, but perhaps less overtly than in some other works. Consider the Madonna figure – she is centrally placed, mediating between the figures of the two children and the patriarchal figure of Joseph. The engraving medium itself—with its reproducible nature—opens up questions about access to and control over religious narratives. Who could afford such prints? Who was being excluded? Editor: That’s a great point about access and control! It is interesting how such familiar imagery has so much to tell. Do you think the way each figure is rendered gives any insight? Curator: Absolutely. Observe how Joseph is positioned in the background, almost contemplative, seemingly removed from the immediate interaction. In what ways do you read this? Perhaps he represents an established order, one that's being subtly challenged by the maternal presence taking center stage. The bodies and the natural elements play a significant role here, mediating relationships. Does that shift your interpretation? Editor: It does! I was really just seeing the ‘Holy Family’ narrative, but it is much more nuanced when we examine through a contemporary lens. Now the arrangement suggests tensions, a silent renegotiation of power dynamics, with Mary at the forefront. I really appreciate your perspective! Curator: It is crucial we continually interrogate and contextualize the traditional art historical narratives that perpetuate narrow points of view. This engraving serves as an excellent springboard for exploring critical contemporary issues and promoting meaningful discussion and engagement!
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