drawing, ink, pen
portrait
drawing
ink
ink drawing experimentation
pen-ink sketch
pen
genre-painting
academic-art
Dimensions: height 332 mm, width 207 mm
Copyright: Rijks Museum: Open Domain
Editor: This pen and ink drawing, "Twee discussiërende juffers," which translates to "Two Discussing Ladies," is attributed to Monogrammist VDG and dates from around 1800 to 1900. The scene seems humorous, capturing what I imagine is some lively gossip! What do you see in this piece? Curator: The humor arises, in part, from the universality of gesture. Look at the pointing figure: a signal we immediately understand to denote blame or emphasis. Its repetition throughout history solidifies its psychological weight, making the exchange timeless and relatable, despite the women’s period clothing. How does their dress inform your interpretation? Editor: It makes me think about societal expectations for women then. The bonnets, shawls, the umbrella… they seem confined, even in public. Perhaps the “discussion” stems from those constraints? Curator: Precisely. And notice the second woman's averted gaze, seemingly indifferent to the accuser, though the viewer is privy to her direction. Is it resistance, resignation, defiance? The artist offers a tableau of potential meanings about their time through potent visual symbols and implied interactions. Editor: I didn't think about their postures that way, or how charged something like pointing can be. Curator: Every choice, every line, carries a cultural memory. Understanding that gives us access not just to the artist's intention, but to a broader understanding of ourselves. The artist leaves marks, as do our own histories. Editor: I'll certainly look closer at gestures in art going forward! This little sketch feels much bigger now.
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